Start with Intros: everyone said their name and how they are connected to the HaHo. About 40 people were in attendance with a wide range of experience form vending to customers to new folks.
Kylie intro to history of HaHo: 1st HaHo… Was tiny! But grew really quickly because of the community.
Kylie and Matt have shepherded the market, with lots of help from awesome volunteers. We’re moving onward, and we need people/person to step up and take over the running/managing of the HaHo. We have a survey that will serve as an informal way for people to apply to have a management role in the HaHo.
1st Brainstorm – what needs is the HaHo fulfilling? What is the current role of the HaHo?
- Not monetary based, based more on community, bring people together, socially minded, bring like minded folks together, etc.
- Places value on being creative, not just on buying something
- Draws attention to getting everything you need within our own community, the community that you live in
- Serves to show people your stuff, a testing ground!
- Makes it easy for people to just get started
- See it as a center for activism, what is happening in the community, how you can get involved.
- Shows the beauty of handmade
- First step towards re-inventing our own economy
- Protecting our local economy, keeping the money circulating locally
- As Perspective vendors – members only market allows food based start ups to get a foothold without high costs of commercial kitchen.
2nd Brainstorm – What are community needs of Denver that the HaHo could address?
- Idea of incubating businesses – more classes about how to actually start a new biz. Trade marking, etc.
- Provide a commercial kitchen space
- All types of other needs that aren’t met through the HaHo. Filling niches that aren’t represented
- Hold seminars on different aspects of starting a biz
- Microfinance organization, loan giving organization
- City provides incubators when you’re at that level, beauty of market is the low stress, family friendly, casual market space. Don’t lose this spirit
- Coop workspaces that are popping up, cooperative creative workspace maybe?
- Speaking as a metal smith, many more needs (ventilation, noisy, etc.)
- A place to do art, food, etc. would be great
- Local currency aspect, although proxy dollar at this time, people are getting used to it and becoming more familiar
- Many problems with monetary system. Should be community controlled, and not based on debt like Denver Dough
- Musings on alternative currencies…
- Approach other businesses about accepting Denver Dough?
- How to engage better cross section of community? Other demographics?
- Be a place where people can get more of their basic needs
- HaHo fostering a way of sharing things we need
o Organized list of all needs, first step is stating your needs
Questions from the community about the basic, current structure of the HaHo:
How is the market incorporated? LLC (limited liability corporation) with Matt and Kylie as the two co-owners
Is this your full time job?
- No, we work 20 hours per week, with lots of help from volunteers
- Don’t pay our selves for 20 hrs a week, closer to 200 or 300 dollars a month
- Could be a full time job, but need to re-evaluate how the market is structured.
Distinction between # of vendors and # of sales – could increase the # of sales without increasing the # of vendors.
Could we increase the frequency of the HaHo? We could – that is something we have considered before and it possible.
You (Matt and Kylie) are the legal owners, so if you keep LLC status will you retain ownership? We would like to retain 20 to 25% of ownership
What are you guys doing day to day? What are the main tasks of the market managers?
- Organizing vendors, fluctuates throughout month, guest vendors and full season vendors, lots of communication
- Dec. market we had a due date for vendor apps, going through all apps and making decisions
- Nuts and bolts of book keeping
- Marketing and press, social media, press releases, graphic design work, printing and distributing flyers, online calendars, getting the word out
- Volunteer management
- Basic big picture sort of stuff – making changes, making decisions, growing the market
- Workshops: managing, publicizing, and running
- Meeting with MHBA and other orgs to form relationships for resources and getting the word out
What is an LLC? Limited Liability Corporation. Very basic structure that allows for flexibility in terms of how it is structured. Each LLC writes an “Articles of Organization” that defines how they work. For the HaHo, Kylie and Matt have equal shares of LLC and have equal ability to make decisions. Kylie and Matt are the sole owners so far.
People would like to see a straw-pull of who is interested in managing the HaHo and who is interested in having some amount of volunteer involvement.
People would like to see finances more transparent – Kylie and Matt say it is possible to do that.
People would like to hear more about each potential structure for the HaHo management (pros and cons) – non-profit, LLC, cooperative?
How can we spread the load? Is there a way to organizationally spread the load of work so that no one or two people have to do everything that Matt and Kylie have been doing?
Maybe we can send out an email to everyone explaining the way different structures for the HaHo would work – what are all the possible ways we could be incorporated and what would that look like? – That way we can have a better starting point for a discussion.
5 minute Brainstorm – on what people would like changed about the market:
- Need Security at the HaHo – valuables around
- One of the reasons that 1st Friday is so successful is because it’s 1st Friday and is consistent and easy to remember.
- The market is actually stationary, it feels far to go to, can we move the market around to different neighborhoods?
- Have multiple venues, on different days that opens up the amount of times the HaHo happens and the amount of people that can be involved.
- Valuable that on 2nd Saturday, that it’s at Green Spaces, but any chance that we might be able to talk to someone in the neighborhood to use some of their space to grow the space – multiple places in RiNo at once?
- Space is dark
- Louder music
- Less negative things to say than positive things to say about the HaHo!
Brainstorming – possible future incorporation strategies
- Coop model, for profit and non profit
- Coop Incubator??? Let’s get to know the difference between for and non profit coop in Colorado
- Continue at LLC and add new owners to it along with Kylie and Matt – can have a slow transition into this as well. Kylie and Matt are not needing to sell shares of the HaHo immediately, but it is a possibility
- Non-profit model – would there be any benefit to this?
Wrap up and what’s next:
This was just the first step to starting to figure out what the community needs/wants, what questions we should be asking, and how much community support there is to keep the HaHo going.
There is clearly a LOT of community support and the HaHo WILL keep running next year, but it will take a little time still to figure out exactly what it will look like.
There are a lot of potential changes that could happen to the structure of how the HaHo is managed in the future, but we are also somewhat limited by who we can find that will be the most appropriate new manager of the HaHo.
There is a survey for people to fill out – both if they just want to offer feedback and if they want to apply to hold a management role in the HaHo – and we will send out the link with the minutes in the next day or two. We’ll have a due date for the survey just so that we can stay on track and then Kylie and Matt will be in touch with everyone about one week after all the surveys come in.
Thanks everyone for coming!!